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Single cylinder wings??

Discussion in 'Dive Equipment' started by Tribal Chestnut, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Tribal Chestnut

    Tribal Chestnut Well-Known Member
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    Any recommendations please?

    I'm struggling to see why I'd pay the extra £230 for a Halcyon over an IST if I'm only going to use it on the odd holiday with my daughter - possibly twenty dives a year max.

    Same for STAs - IST plate for £32 and 2 x OMS bands @ £20 ea. as opposed to a Halcyon jobbie at £153 or Agir Brokk for £130.

    Above are just the DIRDirect list prices so not necessarily the cheapest, but good enough for comparative purposes.
     
  2. AndyW

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    I'm a big fan of the Red Hat single tank wing. About £150 quid. Used to use it all the time in the UK. Now only abroad. Like you say, if it's for a handful of dives a year, who cares.
     
  3. Doomanic

    Doomanic Dinosaur Wrangler
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    I use an Apex WTX3. It's only single skin, but I've never found it to be an issue.
     
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  4. splinter

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    I've got a Frog indigo, which is a great bit of kit. Unfortunately they're hard to get hold of now, but I think the IST is pretty much identical.

    The halcyon STA is good for UK as you can get the weight for it. Expensive though. I've got a Kent tooling one, which I made a weight for, to use here. For holiday, I've got an ali plate and a pair of STAs which I got from Dynarob iirc, on TDF. Cheap as chips, but great quality.

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  5. Doomanic

    Doomanic Dinosaur Wrangler
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    I made my own p-weight for my Dynorob Ali BP. It didn't go exactly as planned the first time...
     
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  6. splinter

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    Come on, you've got to expand on that story!

    I'll confess to my muppetry of using an aluminium pan to melt my first batch of lead. Luckily I was wearing my protective carpet slippers when about 2 kg of molten lead and the bottom of the pan landed on the garage floor.

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    Doomanic Dinosaur Wrangler
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    Not a million miles away from my sorry attempt.

    I used a milk pan (cheapest to replace) and a camping stove. All was going well until it was time to pour the 5kg of molten lead and the handle broke off the pan...
     
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  8. Tribal Chestnut

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    Thanks for the info chaps.

    And your kitchen tales made me chuckle!
     
  9. jb2cool

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    I had a slight molten lead explosion when I put a badly cast block which might have been slightly wet back into the pan to re-melt. Yes, spattering of molten lead up my arms, chest and face. It could have gone a lot lot worse.
     
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  10. JasonP

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    I've got an apeks D30 which mostly just gets used abroad. It's construction is robust to say the least.

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  11. JimmE

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    I’ve got this one too and also pleased - used both in the UK and abroad.

    I’d have tried an equivalent 40-45lb twinset wing from them if they did a donut style one, but they only have ‘horseshoe’ style in the larger sizes.




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  12. Vanny

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    Red hat single here too , no issues.
     
  13. Tribal Chestnut

    Tribal Chestnut Well-Known Member
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    Just been looking on eBay at Red Hat ads and found this little gem in one of them:

    'If a seasoned journalist and tester bought one what are you waiting for. You have read this far now go back and press the buy it now button'

    Wanker! I bet all his cars are 'first to see will buy' etc etc.
     
  14. Wibble

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    Not overly chuffed with my Halcyon Eclipse...
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    Top of wing

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    Bottom of wing

    9 years old and the outer's shredded itself; it's like the outer cover has shrunk.
     
  15. jb2cool

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    Contact Halcyon and see what they say. There was a bad bunch of wings in 2005/2006 where the stitching went bad and did this same thing.

    Having said that......9 years aint bad.

    I still don't know if I prefer my Halcyon Evolve over my Agir Brokk Niord. I can never find the dump as easily on the Halcyon as I could on the Agir and I think the Agir was made out of heavier weight material.
     
  16. Vanny

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    I've got a niord as well. Very rarely use it now a days , advertised it a couple of times but it hasn't sold. TBH I'm quite glad and think I'll just hang onto it on the odd occasion I borrow the wife's twin 7's. Lovely wing just a shame the "brands" are so expensive. That said our red hat single was bought second hand and works a treat , dives really nice, so much so my 13 year old prefers to a BC. I've just picked him a second hand red hat harness to go with it. I tried him in a one piece , he got on ok with it but a single cylinder seems to move about a lot. The harness is sized correctly but I think where he's young he hasn't got the shoulders to fill it out , the red hat harness will adjust down nice and snug.

    I'm sure none of that's of any interest but I'm drinking coffee looking at the snow in the garden , feeling battered and bruised from a cycle crash and possible shingles so tough you can read my ramblings:nurse:
     
  17. Wibble

    Wibble Fish don't talk
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    Who do you think I should contact - a UK importer or go direct?

    TBH I'd pay for a replacement outer, but I wouldn't pay the sort of money H would want to charge! Especially when the rest of the market charges circa £250 for the whole unit and they're trying to charge double that.

    I bought it second hand a couple of years ago and it shredded itself this summer.

    Aside from these problems, it's a nice wing.
     
  18. Wibble

    Wibble Fish don't talk
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    It does interest.

    Sorry to hear that. Was it a good crash - flying through the air type where you can blame someone, or just one of those painful crashes; one minute riding along, next minute on the deck bleeding?
     
  19. Vanny

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    It was an embrassing mechanical faiulure on the road resulting in a short flight over the bars. My helmet is in about 6 pieces, my head is in tact , as much as it was before anyway. It made me smile , as a life long rider it reminds me how tough cycling is. At the grand age of 47 it seems to take weeks not days to repair. Reluctantly got a docs appointment this afternoon.
     
  20. Wibble

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    Wheel fell off? :wacky:

    Good to know that the helmet took the brunt. Must get a helmet; need one with a visor and that covers the ears for the colder weather. Hate the getting older stuff. It's even worse when you're older; knees and ankles are taking a pounding now.
     
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